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Re: Our goals and objectives

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:02 pm
by Akhila L
Thank you for this commentary. I read Conversations a few years ago and this message was actually one of the most important and inspiring ones in the whole series. I like this universal concept of love (not the mushy one - I laughed a lot reading it) very much. But the real challenge is to live according to the essence and never forget it.

Re: Our goals and objectives

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:53 pm
by Drpta
Hi Hariji!
I have a question. If all creation (spiritual, material—it is no matter) is a space of action and action originates from a desire (and our body is an instrument for realization of our desires) then what qualities and desires should we have and develop to get access to the divine worlds and to act there? I mean that we even do not know clearly what are happening there in the divine world, so how then conscious desire can appear in us to get there?

Re: Our goals and objectives

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:06 pm
by Hari
I have a feeling that your question makes sense, and I am sure it does to you, but I cannot grasp it properly. Please rephrase it better.

Please also avoid making it in the format of "if this then that then what?" as I think your attempt to use this type of questioning makes it harder to understand. This is especially true when I do not, perhaps, accept the first IF! What is your question? Clarify further after a question is stated. OK?

Re: Our goals and objectives

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:48 pm
by Drpta
OK.
What qualities and desires should we have and develop to get access to the divine worlds and to act there? And what does it mean “to act” in spiritual (in common sense) world?

In this regard personality of Narada muni is very interesting. What so special qualities he have that allows him to travel everywhere in any world?

Re: Our goals and objectives

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:37 pm
by Hari
Your questions are vast and broad, fitting comfortably within the "How Can We?" category of inquiry that is best answered with, "You do everything!" kind of flippant answer. But, I shall try to succinctly reply with something that might be of value.

Desire is required in any activity. We do not act unless we want to. We might think that some of our actions are independent of desire, such as how we react to a sudden danger, but these actions are not related to the challenge as much as they are related to our over-riding desire to not get hurt. Because we desire to avoid injury or pain, we defend ourselves as an automatic response when we are attacked. This response is intimately related to our life force because our essence is axiomatically linked to ever-existence. The spiritual quality of non-dying is appears in this realm as our desire to maintain life even under the most challenging circumstances. So we can see a glimpse of our essential consciousness in our everyday existence appearing as the universal desire to continue existence. Set aside for a moment the possibility that we might no longer wish to live because we cannot deal with the impossible situations of this world, as this is an aberration and not the general rule.

We must want to be aware of, or connect to, our internal, spiritual, undeniable essence that makes us who we are that is part of a greater whole where other similar spiritual beings reside under the shelter of the divine beings and divine energy. This desire is first and foremost required to attain a state of existence wherein we can reciprocate with others within the divine realm.

The quality we require to do this is our personal essence, and we already have it. To experience this quality and use it to attain what we desire, we must remove all coverings that we are not. Without desiring a divine life, no one would bother to take the time and effort to filter out unwanted energy within their consciousness.

The personality described as Narada Muni is a spiritualist whose essence includes a jovial nature that desires to share with others throughout existence and so he has developed the means to travel to fulfill that desire. More importantly, his desire to be of service is equalled by his capacity to uplift others and therefore he has been gifted by higher authorities with this incredible facility.

Re: Our goals and objectives

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:32 pm
by Drpta
You wrote “we must remove all coverings that we are not” what do you mean under these “coverings”?

Re: Our goals and objectives

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:54 pm
by Hari
Anything mixed into our consciousness and energy that is not our own. But this does not include things voluntarily accepted into our consciousness. I know that is not a great answer, but it is best to reject, for example, judgements of others, or other person's pain, anxiety, or stress, or the fear and tension they spread around them. Any form of energy that is placed upon us by exterior forces that is not compatible with who we are.